Francis A. Boyle: Obama was far more deceptive. I like to call Obama -- You know, he was behind me at Harvard Law School. Obama was the black velvet glove covering the white racist iron fist of US imperialism and capitalism around the world. Trump is just the iron fist. So you know what you're getting with Trump, that's for sure.
Glen Ford: Neither one of the two major political parties in the United States has ever put international law at the top of its priorities or run campaigns based on US adherence to international law -- except for the law that they make up -- regarding, for example, responsibility to 'protect' and 'humanitarian' intervention.
Francis A. Boyle: Well, you're right. Certainly in my political lifetime -- which goes back to the Bay of Pigs under Kennedy and all up -- international law, human rights, has always been eyewash. Although I will make one slight modification to your statement, Glen, in that, as I said, Obama was behind me at Harvard Law School, he's a magna cum laude graduate and in his campaign statements running the first time for president, his statements were technically, legally correct but once he got into power he came as lawless as Bush you know Obama left office when he was attacking 7 or 8 countries he spent 8 years continuously at warfare, longer than any president we had had. But Obama's campaign statements were right in 2008 -- but once he got into power I would say that he's even worse than Bush. Even Bush never arrogated to himself some right to murder US citizens as Obama did there with the drone strikes, murdering Mr. [Anwar] al-Awlaki and his 16-year-old son. Now I note that al-Awlaki daughter is dead. So Obama is the one that officially endorsed the policy of murdering United States citizens.